You know what a carbon footprint is because BP spent $100 million making sure you would.
It worked. Two decades of climate advice came down to shrinking yourself: drive less, fly less, wear a sweater in a cold house. Meanwhile, the fossil fuel industry spent those years buying political power.
Leah Stokes wants the opposite. She helped craft the biggest climate law in American history, watched it nearly die twice, and her new book The Carbon Wave argues the only fix is to stop shrinking: join with others until you’re big enough to change the rules.
Before the interview, Jigar and Jamie share their midterm takeaways from the watch party they hosted in Washington: a wave of down-ballot clean energy wins, a permitting bill through the Senate 73 to 25, and new Democratic majorities in both chambers. The conversation with Leah was recorded at Climate Week in New York, weeks before any of it happened.
In this episode:
Leah’s post, Yes, Democrats Should Talk About Climate: https://electricnotes.news/p/yes-democrats-should-talk-about-climate
The 2035 Initiative polling on climate and candidates: https://www.2035initiative.com/climate-hush/
The carbon wave calculator: https://www.thecarbonwave.com/calculator
The Carbon Wave, out now from MIT Press: https://www.thecarbonwave.com
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